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Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Broham1 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:43 pm

Pliny the Elder

Style: Imperial IPA
Type: All Grain Calories: 283.94
Rating: 4.0 Boil Size: 7.75 Gals
IBU's: 176.62 Batch Size: 6.00 Gals
Color: 6.2 SRM Boil Time: 90 minutes
Preboil OG: 1.069
Estimated Actual
Brew Date: - 12/05/2014
OG: 1.089 1.088
FG: 1.010 1.010
ABV: 10.34 % 10.22 %
Efficiency: 75.00 % 73.81 %
Carbs: 9 9
Serve Date: 01/01/2015 01/24/2015

Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Time Gravity
12.00 lbs 69.58 % Pale Malt (2 Row) US 60 mins 1.036
10.00 ozs 3.62 % Cara-Pils/Dextrine 60 mins 1.033
6.00 ozs 2.17 % Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L 60 mins 1.034
1.31 lbs 7.60 % Corn Sugar (Dextrose) 60 mins 1.046
6.00 ozs 2.17 % Acid Malt 60 mins 1.027
9.00 ozs 3.26 % Light Dry Extract 60 mins 1.044
2.00 lbs 11.60 % Sugar, Table (Sucrose) 60 mins 1.046

Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
5.00 ozs 130.01 HopShot 25mL 90 mins 10.00
1.00 ozs 22.32 HopShot 5mL 45 mins 10.00
1.00 ozs 24.29 Simcoe 30 mins 13.00
1.00 ozs 0.00 Centennial 0 mins 10.00
1.75 ozs 0.00 Simcoe 0 mins 13.00
1.25 ozs 0.00 Columbus (Tomahawk) 3 days 14.00
0.75 ozs 0.00 Simcoe 3 days 13.00
0.75 ozs 0.00 Centennial 3 days 10.00
0.50 ozs 0.00 Columbus (Tomahawk) 6 days 14.00
0.50 ozs 0.00 Simcoe 6 days 13.00
0.25 ozs 0.00 Amarillo Gold 6 days 8.50
0.25 ozs 0.00 Centennial 6 days 10.00

Yeasts
Amount Name Laboratory / ID
3 vials California Ale White Labs 0001

Additions
Amount Name Time Stage
1.00 each Whirlfloc Tablet 15 mins Boil
1.00 tsp Calcium Chloride 15 mins Mash
1.00 tsp Gypsum 15 mins Mash

Mash Profile
Profile Name: Braumeister 20L

Grain Temp: 20.00 °C Mash Tun Vol Loss: 0.00 Gals
Grain Absorption: 0.08 Gals/lb Tun Temp Loss: 0.00 °C
Cooling Shrinkage: 4.00 % Kettle Trub Loss: 0.00 Gals
Hourly Boiloff: 1.00 Gals/hr

Mash Steps:
Mash In 0 min@40.0°C
Add 26.50 qts water @ 21.0°C
Sacch Rest 45 min@65.0°C
Heat to 65.0°C over 10 mins
Mash Out 10 min@78.0°C
Heat to 78.0°C over 10 mins
Batch Sparge
Sparge 8.78 qts water @ 78.00 °C

Water Profile
100% RO

Fermentation Steps
Name Days / Temp Estimated Actual
Primary 5 days @ 20.0°C 12/05/2014 12/05/2014
Add 1lb. Sugar 5 days @ 20.0°C 12/10/2014 12/10/2014
Dry hop #1 3 days @ 4.4°C 12/15/2014 12/15/2014
Keg hop #2 5 days @ 4.4°C 12/18/2014 12/19/2014
Bottle/Keg 7 days @ 4.4°C 12/24/2014 12/25/2014

Carbonation
Force Carbonation
Desired Vol of CO2: 2.30 Vols
Beer Temperature: 4.4 °C
Required PSI: 10.10


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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Broham1 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:52 pm

This is easily the best IPA I've made. I followed this recipe and really focused on reducing oxygen pickup post-fermentation. It was also my first time using hop extract. I'm sold! Such clean, firm bitterness. These two changes really paid off. I love this beer! I'll post a pic later.
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby moellinger » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:22 pm

Did a similar clone last time, awesome beer! - Two Captains DIPA AKA HumleHelvete I believe he also had the "Pliny the Elder" as reference

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ecipe: #4 Three Strikes - DIPA (Hoppy Hell)
Brewer: Daniel
Asst Brewer:
Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 29.92 l
Post Boil Volume: 23.92 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 21.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 20.00 l
Estimated OG: 19.798 Plato
Estimated Color: 16.6 EBC
Estimated IBU: 221.9 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 74.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 84.6 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
4.30 kg               Pale Malt (Weyermann) (6.5 EBC)          Grain         1        66.5 %       
0.25 kg               Carapils (Weyermann) (25.0 EBC)          Grain         2        3.9 %         
0.12 kg               Caramalt (Thomas Fawcett) (30.0 EBC)     Grain         3        1.9 %         
0.10 kg               Crystal Malt - 60L (Thomas Fawcett) (120 Grain         4        1.5 %         
30.00 g               Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.20 %] - Mash 90. Hop           5        9.1 IBUs     
1.50 kg               DME Golden Light (Briess) (7.9 EBC)      Dry Extract   6        23.2 %       
100.00 g              Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.20 %] - Boil 90. Hop           7        151.5 IBUs   
24.00 g               Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.20 %] - Boil 45. Hop           8        31.2 IBUs     
30.00 g               Simcoe [11.10 %] - Boil 30.0 min         Hop           9        25.5 IBUs     
0.92 g                Yeast Nutrient (Boil 15.0 mins)          Other         10       -             
74.00 g               Simcoe [11.10 %] - Boil 1.0 min          Hop           11       3.5 IBUs     
30.00 g               Centennial [8.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min       Hop           12       1.0 IBUs     
2.0 pkg               American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast         13       -             
0.20 kg               Dememera Sugar (30.0 EBC)                Sugar         14       3.1 %         
30.00 g               Centennial [6.00 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days  Hop           15       0.0 IBUs     
30.00 g               Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop  Hop           16       0.0 IBUs     
30.00 g               Simcoe [12.40 %] - Dry Hop 14.0 Days     Hop           17       0.0 IBUs     
8.00 g                Centennial [6.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days   Hop           18       0.0 IBUs     
8.00 g                Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop  Hop           19       0.0 IBUs     
8.00 g                Simcoe [12.40 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days      Hop           20       0.0 IBUs     


Mash Schedule: Braumeister 4 step light body 76% efficiency
Total Grain Weight: 6.47 kg
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Name                     Description                             Step Temperature    Step Time     
add malt pipe            Add 27.00 l of water and heat to 38.0 C 38.0 C              0 min         
Protein Mode             Heat to 52.0 C over 5 min               52.0 C              5 min         
Maltose mode             Heat to 62.0 C over 5 min               62.0 C              30 min       
Saccharification 1       Heat to 70.0 C over 5 min               70.0 C              15 min       
Mash Out                 Heat to 76.0 C over 5 min               76.0 C              10 min       

Sparge: Fly sparge with 6.21 l water at 78.0 C
Notes:
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http://forum.norbrygg.no/threads/two-captains-humlehelvete.8744/


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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Nesto » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:50 pm

Broham1 wrote:This is easily the best IPA I've made. I followed this recipe and really focused on reducing oxygen pickup post-fermentation. It was also my first time using hop extract. I'm sold! Such clean, firm bitterness. These two changes really paid off. I love this beer! I'll post a pic later.

How close a clone do you think it ended up?

Funny, AHA just reposted this a few days ago. 5 tips and you followed just about every one: low crystal, dry it out, hop extract, gypsum, and 2 dry hoppings!

A few questions: first, I noticed you put the sugar in the fermenter vs. the kettle. Any special reason why? And what is the water profile you are targeting? Finally, just how messy is hop extract? Was is tough to clean the BM?
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby martingale » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:27 pm

Are you making the water adjustments during the mash, or to the water?
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Broham1 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:04 pm

I think it's pretty close. But, then again, it's hard to say. I was at Russian River in August, but it's difficult to compare a beer in my hand with one in my fading memory. Regardless, it is a very good IIPA.

I can't quite remember why the sugar went in the fermenter, except maybe to keep the color more true to the original. I've had good success in the past adding the sugar after high krausen.

For the past six months, or so, I've been doing straight distilled water and building the chemistry from there. However, I'm still at the beginning stages, so I'm following a very simplified approach to water profiles: I follow post 30 on this thread. I fill up the Braumeister with the total volume of water, mix in my additions, and once it gets to temp I pull off enough water to get it down to 25 L. Lately, I've been adding that water right back and skipping the Sparge.

That hop extract stuff is, indeed, some messy stuff! My brewing assistant said it was a little more difficult to clean but not by much. It's worth it, in my mind, for something with this many IBUs.
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby HopSong » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:16 pm

I'll be at Russian River Brewing.. possibly today after the Superbowl for an Elder.. but, next Friday is opening day for Pliny the Younger. Long, LONG L-O-N-G lines... It is an awesome beer.
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Broham1 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:32 am

HbgBill wrote:I'll be at Russian River Brewing.. possibly today after the Superbowl for an Elder.. but, next Friday is opening day for Pliny the Younger. Long, LONG L-O-N-G lines... It is an awesome beer.

Oy. That is definitely a bucket list beer for me. You going?
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby HopSong » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:13 pm

Not positive. I've had Younger a few times and it IS awesome. However, this being SF Beer Week.. there are other local breweries that are doing their Once A Year offerings. I'll probably try some of those. However, the Elder was great on Sunday.
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Nesto » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:09 pm

HbgBill wrote:Not positive. I've had Younger a few times and it IS awesome. However, this being SF Beer Week.. there are other local breweries that are doing their Once A Year offerings. I'll probably try some of those. However, the Elder was great on Sunday.

And the forecast is for lots on rain on Younger Day! RR is going to be putting out "a dozen" EZ-ups for shelter... that will leave approximately everyone standing in the rain ;)
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby HopSong » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:56 pm

They sheltered last year as I remember. Diehard's stand no matter what. Sometime the following week should be good, I hope.

I'll be pouring for the Black and White Ball on the 13.. Ales 4 Autism event.
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby hegeyb » Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:48 pm

Thanks for this recipe, although as a brewer new to the BM 20l, can you tell me how you manage so much grain in the BM 20l? Seems like this would be too much for the BM to handle?

Thanks!
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby HopSong » Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:34 pm

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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Nesto » Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:22 am

hegeyb wrote:Thanks for this recipe, although as a brewer new to the BM 20l, can you tell me how you manage so much grain in the BM 20l? Seems like this would be too much for the BM to handle?

Thanks!

It will be a full pipe, but anything under 6kg (13 lbs 4 oz) will be ok. 6.5kg has been done, but is "difficult."
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Re: Pliny the Elder clone

Unread postby Broham1 » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:37 pm

hegeyb wrote:Thanks for this recipe, although as a brewer new to the BM 20l, can you tell me how you manage so much grain in the BM 20l? Seems like this would be too much for the BM to handle?

Thanks!


13.5 lbs is no struggle. I make a point of pausing the mash once or twice to stir it up and I th that helps. My very first batch on this thing, I did 14.5 lbs and efficiency was around 60%. I bet if I were to do it again, I cou hit my numbers just fine.
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