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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Mr O » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:03 pm

I might have to send an email then :evil:


I guessed how much water i had lost and carried on with the brewday.

I ended up with a sg of 1.049 instead of 1.046

good excuse to do it again i suppose.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Mr O » Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:38 pm

Well this brew turned out very, very good. I've got enough ingredients to brew another batch. I'll try and get the recommended yeast for the next batch, just to see the difference...

Cheers Nesto :beer:
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:50 am

Cheers Mr O!
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rmklaw » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:42 am

Thank you; thank you, thank you, for your award winning recipe Nesto. I just tasted a batch I did and it is wonderful. Everyone loves it.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Fri Apr 01, 2016 5:05 am

rmklaw wrote:Thank you; thank you, thank you, for your award winning recipe Nesto. I just tasted a batch I did and it is wonderful. Everyone loves it.

Glad it worked well for you rmklaw!
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Mr O » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:44 pm

Well, I'm nearly out of this so I suppose I'd better brew it again :beer: 8)
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:50 am

Just brewed this myself again yesterday - terrible efficiency, not sure why. But we shall see how it comes out. Went back to WLP300. And made a few other errors along the way... getting too lackadaisical I guess. . Friend with a PicoBrew wants the recipe to sell in the new Pico market
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby MattSR » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:06 pm

Nesto,

I have brewed this twice and had the same problem each time! I used 6.5kg Weyermann Pale wheat and 5.5KG of Weymermann Pils, ended up with 55L into the fermenter (no sparge, 73.5L in the Brau - it was full to the brim) however my O.G. was only 1038 or so..

It will still turn out to be a good beer I believe, I just didn't reach the target I wanted!

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The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:44 am

MattSR wrote:Nesto,

I have brewed this twice and had the same problem each time! I used 6.5kg Weyermann Pale wheat and 5.5KG of Weymermann Pils, ended up with 55L into the fermenter (no sparge, 73.5L in the Brau - it was full to the brim) however my O.G. was only 1038 or so..

It will still turn out to be a good beer I believe, I just didn't reach the target I wanted!

Cheers,
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Same problem myself this weekend. Not sure why - although for me the milled grain sat around for 2 months before I could manage to brew. Not sure if that had anything to do with it.

What mash schedule did you use?

My malt pipe was not particularly packed tight, but I'm guessing yours was? The 40-43C rest can help. And maybe even a couple extra stirs during the mash. Oh, and rice hulls too.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:13 pm

Nesto,
just read in Braukaiser that cooling to 10C for 7 days after fermentation is done and before transfer to keg helps yeast to settle. Is this necessary?
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:23 pm

Mr O wrote:Well this brew turned out very, very good. I've got enough ingredients to brew another batch. I'll try and get the recommended yeast for the next batch, just to see the difference...

Cheers Nesto :beer:


Hi Mr O,

How many packets of M20 Mangrove's Yeast did you used ?
How did it turned out?

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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby MattSR » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:14 am

Nesto wrote:Same problem myself this weekend. Not sure why - although for me the milled grain sat around for 2 months before I could manage to brew. Not sure if that had anything to do with it.

What mash schedule did you use?

My malt pipe was not particularly packed tight, but I'm guessing yours was? The 40-43C rest can help. And maybe even a couple extra stirs during the mash. Oh, and rice hulls too.


G'day Nesto,

I used the Speidels Wheat beer mash schedule, which is:-
50 °C › Start mashing
52 °C › 0 min
63 °C › 15 min
73 °C › 35 min
78 °C › 15 min
Boiling › 80min


The mail pipe wasn't packed tight and had about 1.5" room at the top for the top plate to move around. I milled it at a gap of 1.5mm (which I have since closed back down to 1.3mm to see if it helps) and halfway through my mill motor PWM controller blew up :beerbang: so I had to bypass it and run the mill a bit faster than usual.

I suspect the wheat grain is the cause, as I've had no problems with ale malt previously. I think I'll give it another shot with the smaller gap and see if it makes a difference.

The other very confusing thing was that the gravity didn't appear to change before and after the boil.. I had a nice rolling boil going, even though the display said it was 97-99 degress throughout the boil, and the level dropped the expected amount, but gravity only went from 1.038 to 1.040.... Very confusing indeed..!

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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby royco » Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:50 am

Matt I had the same problem and then changed my schedule, adding a 15min ferric rest at 42°C and a protein rest at 52°C for 15min. Mashed out for 1 hour. Also gave a good stir halfway through the mash. Hit 1048 OG.
The ferric rest is reputed to boost the phenols and in this case it certainly seemed to work. Force-Carped 1L last week and it tastes great already. 1 more week and ready to keg!
Thanks Nesto for a great recipe. The guys at our club all want it.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Sun May 01, 2016 12:58 am

Luis Coentrao wrote:Nesto,
just read in Braukaiser that cooling to 10C for 7 days after fermentation is done and before transfer to keg helps yeast to settle. Is this necessary?

I don't think so. I prefer the typical hazy Weizen look for this one. I do find with WLP300 it will eventually drop clear in the bottle. Some score sheets I get back with remarks of how crystal clear it is. That's when I know it isn't quite fresh anymore. Finally took a pic of this beer!

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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rmklaw » Sun May 01, 2016 3:33 am

Nesto: Your recipe is a big hit. Everyone that tried my last batch loves it and raves about it.
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