The Weizen wins again!

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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Sat May 30, 2015 2:47 pm

It is interesting what different yeasts can do. I prefer this recipe with WLP300 (WY3068) fermented at 17C and a healthy pitch - I don't like the stressed yeast character. This gives a more phenolic (clove and pepper) character with less esters (banana). WLP380 (WY3333?), also at 17C and healthy pitch, gives more of both the phenolic and ester as WLP300 and adds some bubblegum ester too. IMO, temp and pitch rate are key with these two yeasts. Higher temps or lower pitch rates seem to increase esters (banana, bubblegum).

I haven't tried them, but the Wit (WLP400/410) or American Wheat (WLP320) strains might be "cleaner."
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby airborn » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:34 pm

Now it's done

Had problems with the boiloff. Nesto boiled 5 liters off - I only 2 !! I even removed the dome for some time.

So i have a problem with OG 1.044 instead af 1.049 !!
If its good I'l use 2-3 liters less next time.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rocketman » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:07 pm

Yeast and Hops ordered, time to brew a price winner! :)
(I was due to make a wheat so this one was perfect!)
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rmklaw » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:58 pm

Hi Nesto. Congratulations on your great brewing skills and success. I have copied your recipe to make my next batch with the BM 20L. My only problem in Beersmith is that by boiling the hops for 60 minutes, it comes up to a much higher IBUs than your recipe (about 16.3 and also a 6.9 EBC). How did you manage to get the IBUs down with the same amount of hops and the lighter color with the same amount of grain? What am I doing wrong? Thanks.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:45 pm

rmklaw wrote:Hi Nesto. Congratulations on your great brewing skills and success. I have copied your recipe to make my next batch with the BM 20L. My only problem in Beersmith is that by boiling the hops for 60 minutes, it comes up to a much higher IBUs than your recipe (about 16.3 and also a 6.9 EBC). How did you manage to get the IBUs down with the same amount of hops and the lighter color with the same amount of grain? What am I doing wrong? Thanks.

The Hallertauer Mittelfrueh I used were low Alpha Acid (2.7%). Adjust the amount of hops you use to get down to about 12 IBUs. EBC should be fine at 6.9.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rmklaw » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:51 am

Thank you for your help. I will try. I just finished my first brew with the new 20L. Still fermenting, but looks like it will overshoot the FG and will give me an extra percent or more of ABV. I'll double check water volumes.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rmklaw » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:55 pm

Nesto: I cannot find anywhere in the US the Belgium Wheat Malt. Have you tried your recipe using either German or American wheat? Thanks.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby HopSong » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:30 pm

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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby bierfest » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:07 pm

@nesto I brewed this beer and I have to say it tastes fantastic. It's very different to a normal weizen. I'm getting a nice light kind of vanilla aftertaste. It's lovely and light and so easy to drink quite a lot of it. A delightful session beer. I'm already planning to brew it again.

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@rmklaw I used standard Weyermann wheat (German wheat)
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby bierfest » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:08 pm

I think this will become one of my staple beers
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rmklaw » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:25 pm

No luck with the Beverage People. Everybody has the German Wheat but nobody has Belgian Wheat. What is the difference for this recipe? Thanks.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:56 am

rmklaw wrote:No luck with the Beverage People. Everybody has the German Wheat but nobody has Belgian Wheat. What is the difference for this recipe? Thanks.

So glad you asked! I do use Belgian Pils (Dingmans or Castle - I think MoreBeer usually has Castle), but I actually use Great Western White Wheat Malt. I don't know why I picked the Belgian Wheat from the Beersmith list when I created the recipe, I never use Belgian wheat! :beerbang:
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:02 am

bierfest wrote:@nesto I brewed this beer and I have to say it tastes fantastic. It's very different to a normal weizen. I'm getting a nice light kind of vanilla aftertaste. It's lovely and light and so easy to drink quite a lot of it. A delightful session beer. I'm already planning to brew it again.

Here it is:
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@rmklaw I used standard Weyermann wheat (German wheat)

Nice looking Weizen!
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby rmklaw » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:57 am

Thanks guys. Appreciate the help. I have German pale wheat. I'll try Nesto's recipe with that. Cheers.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby bierfest » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:03 pm

I can't stop drinking this beer which is even more crazy as I have just last week returned from an 11 day trip to Germany and Austria where I drank wheat beer almost every night. Usually my lust for it would be worn out after that.

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