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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby bierfest » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:48 pm

Was going to give this a go this weekend as i havent done a weiss bier in a long time. Unfortunately my homebrew supplier are out of WLP300... guess i will have to wait another couple of weeks :-)
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:02 pm

bierfest wrote:Was going to give this a go this weekend as i havent done a weiss bier in a long time. Unfortunately my homebrew supplier are out of WLP300... guess i will have to wait another couple of weeks :-)

WY3068 is the same if they have it. For my latest batch which got the 2nd place mentioned above, I switched to WLP380. Ester and phenol flavors seem a little more pronounced. I think WY3333 is the same or close.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby bierfest » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:32 pm

Both of the suppliers i use are sold out of all WLP weissen related yeasts.. must be a run on weissen beer at the moment. They will probably have them back in stock in a couple of weeks. I'll hold off until then.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby redwing_al » Mon Apr 13, 2015 11:49 pm

I would love to place in any competition... good job, man.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:30 am

redwing_al wrote:I would love to place in any competition... good job, man.

Thanks Al :)
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Mr O » Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:53 pm

Well done :)
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby bierfest » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:28 am

@Nesto - I have ordered the ingredients for this. Going to brew it at the weekend. The only difference is that I will use Oat husks instead of Rice Hulls as you cannot get rice hulls over here.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Thu Apr 30, 2015 5:57 pm

bierfest wrote:@Nesto - I have ordered the ingredients for this. Going to brew it at the weekend. The only difference is that I will use Oat husks instead of Rice Hulls as you cannot get rice hulls over here.

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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby airborn » Fri May 01, 2015 1:04 pm

Do you boil the hop for 90 min.?
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Fri May 01, 2015 2:14 pm

90 min boil, but the Mittelfrueh (whole leaf) goes in with 60 min to go.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby bierfest » Mon May 18, 2015 9:46 pm

This is now in the fermenter since last saturday.
So far its giving the most vigorous fermentation I have had to date. I have 10 litres of head space in my fermentation bucket and it still erupted up out through the airlock. I've read about people experiencing this before but definitely my first time to experience it.

@Nesto - what way do you find best to serve/store this beer - bottle or keg?
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Nesto » Mon May 18, 2015 10:36 pm

bierfest wrote:This is now in the fermenter since last saturday.
So far its giving the most vigorous fermentation I have had to date. I have 10 litres of head space in my fermentation bucket and it still erupted up out through the airlock. I've read about people experiencing this before but definitely my first time to experience it.

@Nesto - what way do you find best to serve/store this beer - bottle or keg?

Yeah, those hefe yeasts can be beasts! I find this recipe best fresh and from the keg - 3.0 vols CO2. It's fine from the bottle if you have a good bottling setup. You do need to let it completely finish fermenting and even give a couple extra days after reaching FG. You might get some sulphur notes that will clear up with those couple extra days.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby hughjampton » Sat May 30, 2015 6:21 am

I'd love to make a Weizen, it's an interesting style. Unfortunately, I've tried a few commercial examples and hated them. I find the phenols loathsome, especially the banana ones. I love banana custard and banofee pie. I often wrap bananas in tinfoil, put them on the barbeque and smother them in rum but I hate the flavour in beer.

Could I use the same recipe with a cleaner yeast? I know it wouldn't be the same but at least I'll be able to drink it. Perhaps I should make a nice, tart Belgian wit

Anyway, congratulations. I love to see people do well in the activities they enjoy and it's an inspiration to us all. Good man.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby Cervantes » Sat May 30, 2015 9:19 am

hughjampton wrote:Could I use the same recipe with a cleaner yeast? I know it wouldn't be the same but at least I'll be able to drink it. Perhaps I should make a nice, tart Belgian wit


I brew a wheat beer with US-05 to produce a very quaffable wheat beer. Maybe not true to style, but I prefer the cleaner taste and it's probably one of the most popular beers that I brew.
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Re: The Weizen wins again!

Unread postby royco » Sat May 30, 2015 1:41 pm

Sorry Nesto, just realised this is a hijack. Brilliant work and congrats on your award!

hughjampton wrote:I'd love to make a Weizen, it's an interesting style. Unfortunately, I've tried a few commercial examples and hated them. I find the phenols loathsome, especially the banana ones.

Could I use the same recipe with a cleaner yeast? I know it wouldn't be the same but at least I'll be able to drink it. Perhaps I should make a nice, tart Belgian wit


Hugh, I agree; love bananas especially with peanut butter and cheese. Don't like it in ale.
Fermentis offers wb-06 and s-33 for wheat and Trappist style beers. I used both and prefer S-33. Also (open to correction) I believe that fermenting slightly cooler lessens the banana phenols. 16°C is good.

Right now 3 days into a Wit using S-33 so should be kegging in 10days (it appears you can use a shorter ferm time for Wit). Using the brand-new More Beer Corny carbonating lid it should be drinkable the following day!

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PS: I also love pumpkin, but not in ale
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