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Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:45 am

Hi team Braumeister.
I have a brand spanking new 20litre in the shed.
Going to have an attempt at a couple of recipes on the Spiedel website.
I am a little confused with the mash timings.

This is taken from the IPA recipe.
Mash programme
63° C › Start mashing
52° C › 0 min
63° C › 70 min
73° C › 5 min
78° C › 5 min
Boiling › 80 min

All the website recipes seem to have a 52° C › 0 min step. What does this actually mean?
Mash in at 63, stop at 52 for 0 mins then move on to 63 for 70 mins.???
I am assuming that 52 is a protein rest step, but zero minutes.

Can somebody please enlighten me?
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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby niels » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:44 am

Andy_Chil wrote:This is taken from the IPA recipe.
Mash programme
63° C › Start mashing
52° C › 0 min
63° C › 70 min
73° C › 5 min
78° C › 5 min
Boiling › 80 min

All the website recipes seem to have a 52° C › 0 min step. What does this actually mean?
Mash in at 63, stop at 52 for 0 mins then move on to 63 for 70 mins.???
I am assuming that 52 is a protein rest step, but zero minutes.

Can somebody please enlighten me?


I think they used a template to create those recipes. When you set your mash temperature to x°C the first rest must be at least x°C. Every next step must be at least the temperature as the previous step. Skipping a step is done by setting the time to 0 min.

A more logic representation of that programme would be:
63° C › Start mashing
63° C › 70 min
73° C › 5 min
78° C › 5 min
78° C › 0 min (skip step)
Boiling › 80 min

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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Dicko » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:33 pm

+ 1 for niels schedule,
Or you could dough in at 52 degc then follow the steps by raising to 63 at the first step and then so on...

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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:12 pm

Thanks Lads.

Given that these recipes are most likely template driven, is the mash schedule actually appropriate for an IPA in the BM. It has 4kg pale ale malt and .5kg Carapils.
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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Dicko » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:32 pm

My view is that it would depend on the yeast you intend to use.
If selecting a middle of the road attenuator and a healthy pitch and fermentation then give that mash schedule a run.
If selecting a high attenuator, eg Nottingham, I would raise the 63 degc to 67 degc for a shorter time like 45 mins.
This of course, is my view only as with most things brewing there are so many variables.
If it is your first brew on the BM you may be pleasantly surprised at the attenuation levels that can be achieved on these units with the choice of mash schedules.
Keeping good notes and comments will assist with future assessments and results.
Enjoy your first brew day with the B M.

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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Beerkench » Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:56 pm

That IPA was the first one I tried out with the BM and it was great.
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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:21 am

Hi Dicko. Thanks for the wise words! Going with Safale 05 for this one. Will be rehydrating prior to pitch.
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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby niels » Sat Jan 25, 2014 6:08 am

Beerkench wrote:That IPA was the first one I tried out with the BM and it was great.

What yeast did you use?

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RE: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Beerkench » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:45 am

I used safale 05
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Re: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby airborn » Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:59 pm

ok Andy
How did it turn out?
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Re: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:11 pm

Regarding the hop dosage in the recipe,
I placed the recipe into Beersmith2 and it turned out into:
- OG 1.050
- IBU 142 :shock:

Have you noticed the same or I've done something wrong?

On the other hand, Speidel's German Pils recipe has only 12IBUs :?

Any thoughts?
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Re: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Thu Jan 08, 2015 4:43 am

airborn wrote:ok Andy
How did it turn out?


It was a while ago, but remember the Spiedel IPA and the Pilsner both being a little dull and lacking flavour. There plenty of better recipes for IPA out there.
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Re: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby airborn » Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:04 am

Thank you Andy.

As I am expecting my BM20 any day now and never have brewed anything before I would really appreciate a recommendation for at nice IPA.
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Re: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:08 am

airborn wrote:Thank you Andy.

As I am expecting my BM20 any day now and never have brewed anything before I would really appreciate a recommendation for at nice IPA.


Would you prefer an English Style or American? I'll see what I can dig up.
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Re: Speidel Recipes

Unread postby airborn » Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:49 am

Thank you

As I've apparently been able to live for 60+ years only distinguishing between likes and dislikes I surely lack some knowledge about tastes in beer.

So in short: I would really like both recipes so I can brew them and learn the differences.
Honnestly I do not know the difference between an English style and an American IPA...
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