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Schwarzbier

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:33 pm

Hi all,

I have a Schwarzbier recipe I would like to try tomorrow. I am shooting for something in the style of Toohyes Old.

The grain bill has 4.5kg Pilsner and 250g each of chocolate and crystal mashed for one hour at 65C.

Should I stick to this mash schedule or going for something a little more complex? If so, what would the likely result be.

The beer is hopped with 28g Pride of Ringwood at 45mins.
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Re: Schwarzbier

Unread postby piet_v » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:18 pm

I always add a 15 min step at 72C, should give higher extract and bit of body. Using a speidel we don't have the raised temperature effect of a long sparge, holding at 72 should compensate this.
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Re: Schwarzbier

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:36 am

Thanks Piet, I have done as you suggested. I am a little short of where beersmith would like the pre boil estimate and efficiency to be (1.038/1.041 and 67.5/72 Mash efficiency.
Will wait and see what the SG is. I am slowly getting my head around beersmith.
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Re: Schwarzbier Bread

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:48 am

I read somewhere on the AHB forum ages ago about using spent brewing grain in bread.
I gave it a go this afternoon with the Schwazbier. The result was amazing. I hope the beer is as good as the bread!

For those who want to give it a go:
600g Bakers Flour
200g Spent brewing grain
1 tbs dried yeast (au tbs is 20g)
2 tsp salt (au tsp is 5g)
2 tsp sugar
2 tsp bread improver (soy lecithin)
2 tsp EV Olive Oil
350-400ml very warm water

Combine all ingredients and knead for 2 mins.
Put dough in bowl covered with cling film/tea-towel and wait until doubled
Knead dough for 2 min and shape/place in tin.
Allow to double in size again then bake in 200C oven 40 mins
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Re: Schwarzbier

Unread postby niels » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:29 am

Andy_Chil wrote:Thanks Piet, I have done as you suggested. I am a little short of where beersmith would like the pre boil estimate and efficiency to be (1.038/1.041 and 67.5/72 Mash efficiency.
Will wait and see what the SG is. I am slowly getting my head around beersmith.

You could easily get 75% extraction efficiency with the Braumeister if your malt pipe is not filled to the top. I always use this figure for my calculations but overshoot it every time by a few (2~3) points.

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Re: Schwarzbier

Unread postby Batz » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:09 am

Toohyes Old is not a Schwazbier, in fact it's nothing like a Schwazbier. To start with it is an ale, Schwazbier is a lager.

Not that this matters as I'm sure your brew will be great. :beer:

I brew a lot Schwazbiers, really like the style.
Your not a real brewer until you own a Braumeister
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