Failed cleaning of braumeister

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Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby KBK2006 » Sun Oct 05, 2014 7:56 pm

Hi

I've brewed eight times with the braumeister and cleaned it as you should.

But thought this time I could clean all the equipment at the same time in the braumeister (Eveything was clean but just wanted to do a all together clean).
Added water about 10 liters, maltpipe, the two maltpressers and filters. Then added the cleaning powder.

Started heating and waited until tempature around 40 until turning on the pumps. Went away for 5 minutes. Came back and heard boiling (the bad kind).

What has happend was that the pump, pumped out all water to the middle and it didnt reach the top to circulate. So the heatpipes started to "dryboil".
Shutdown everything and checked. Nothing looked cracked or destroyed but...

I've posted two pictures to show how it looks. Haven't tried to turn it on yet and check if anything is broken. But will tomorrow.
Is this something anyone else has expreienced?

(Hope you all don't think I'm stupid :? )

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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby RobW » Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:37 pm

Hi KBK
I once added too little mash water which the malt absorbed and left the heating coils exposed.
Fortunately I saw what was happening and topped up with extra water so the coils were only exposed for a minute or so but they did end up looking like yours with dark marks on them.
I cleaned them with PBW and a nylon kitchen scrubber and they came up like new.
Obviously it's impossible to know if you've done any structural damage but if you run it in manual (without the malt pipe) you'll soon know if it's OK or not.
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby bierfest » Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:57 pm

Hi KBK,
This happened me on my first brew with the Bm. Luckily I spotted it very quickly. Mine is not burned the way your is.. Just some black marks here and there which don't come off. However I'm happy to report the many brews alert I have not experienced any problems.
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby KBK2006 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:21 am

Thanks for replies.

RobW - Could you post what those kitchen scrubbers looks like? Hope I can find them i Sweden :)

Bierfest - Thats good to hear that it hasent happen anything for you :)

I hope the same for me
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby KBK2006 » Mon Oct 06, 2014 5:03 pm

Did try to see what happen when running manualmode and heat it up too 100*C.
It worked so nothing to worry about.

But i havent every tried to heat it up to that before without anything in it.
I did notice that the heatpipe nearest to the openvalve was expanding really close to the edge. But think didnt touch the casing. You can see it is close but not that close...is it normal?
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby RobW » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:12 pm

KBK2006 wrote:Thanks for replies.

RobW - Could you post what those kitchen scrubbers looks like? Hope I can find them i Sweden :)



Nylon scourer is probably the correct name.
They won't leave little bits of steel to rust your stainless.

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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby HopSong » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:50 am

We have local stores throughout the US called Dollar Store.. and Dollar Tree. Both have the green kitchen scrubbies such as you see attached to that sponge. It have very little scouring ability compared to some of the other green pads. The nice thing is how perfectly flexible they are.. almost NO stiffness to them, so they conform around tubes (heat coils and posts). In the case of the heat coils, I can see them wrapping completely around the coils.
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby niels » Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:35 pm

KBK2006 wrote:Did try to see what happen when running manualmode and heat it up too 100*C.
It worked so nothing to worry about.

But i havent every tried to heat it up to that before without anything in it.
I did notice that the heatpipe nearest to the openvalve was expanding really close to the edge. But think didnt touch the casing. You can see it is close but not that close...is it normal?

I do think this is normal as it the coils expand due to the heat. Normally the heat is transfered to the water/wort and the expansion will not be that big.

I won't recommend turning the heating on without any water/wort in the BM as you certainly have a chance to break them.

Thanks for the experiment, though. Now we all know this!

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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby RobW » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:46 pm

HbgBill wrote:We have local stores throughout the US called Dollar Store.. and Dollar Tree. Both have the green kitchen scrubbies such as you see attached to that sponge. It have very little scouring ability compared to some of the other green pads. The nice thing is how perfectly flexible they are.. almost NO stiffness to them, so they conform around tubes (heat coils and posts). In the case of the heat coils, I can see them wrapping completely around the coils.


Correct. The PBW really does most of the work and the scourer finishes the job.
The plain ones are every bit as good but we use the sponge type in the kitchen so I just grab one of them. :cheers:

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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby KBK2006 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:17 pm

Thanks for all the help.
I did try all of it :) and including, rubbing with sugercubes, adding water with vinegear essence.

Nothing worked, well it perhaps did but couldn't get anything of the dark part away.
Did my Pilsner brew today anyway :) Nothing strange with the water so went ahead.

When I started cleaning after the pilsner everything looked perfect again :) So it was perhaps a good brew and some love it needed!
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby Lylo » Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:56 pm

It just needed to know you still care. Wait, the BM is female?! :shock:
I wasn't planning on going for a run today but those cops came from nowhere!
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby KBK2006 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:17 pm

Lylo wrote:It just needed to know you still care. Wait, the BM is female?! :shock:


I think my BM is a female, I think I'll call her "Gertrud" :)
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby eli.donald » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:49 pm

She is definitely female - I've named mine BrewinHilda :wink:

Why BMs are female? - http://www.elidonald.co.uk/blog/beer-pairing-women-and-beer/
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Re: Failed cleaning of braumeister

Unread postby Lindh » Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:27 am

BM actually stands for Britt-Marie =)
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