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Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby bierfest » Sat Jul 19, 2014 5:45 pm

Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM? The whit plastic insert around the tap has moved on mine and now the tap wont flow no matter how you twist it. The tap was always a bit of a pain on the BM anyhow. So im wondering if anybody has changed theirs and if so what is the best tap out there to change it to?
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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby dinnerstick » Sat Jul 19, 2014 6:55 pm

there are lots of descriptions of modifications on here for the tap. some here viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28 but there are others that i couldn't find quickly. someone else will direct you there i'm sure. however, what you have is a recurring problem that speidel have fixed, when i complained about it happening to mine they sent me a redesigned tap free and quickly. the plastic sleeve is now locked so it can't turn and block the port. the rest of the tap is the same however.
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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby Cervantes » Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:47 am

I changed mine to a 15mm stainless steel ball valve for increased flow.
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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby flemming » Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:10 pm

dinnerstick wrote:there are lots of descriptions of modifications on here for the tap. some here viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28 but there are others that i couldn't find quickly. someone else will direct you there i'm sure. however, what you have is a recurring problem that speidel have fixed, when i complained about it happening to mine they sent me a redesigned tap free and quickly. the plastic sleeve is now locked so it can't turn and block the port. the rest of the tap is the same however.


Same here, I sent them an email and had a replacement tap in my hands shortly thereafter.

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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby royco » Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:25 pm

Seeing as it is a 3/4" fitting I changed mine to a 3/4" ball valve.
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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby Nesto » Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:49 am

Like a lot of others, I installed a ball valve for better flow. Here's my setup...

I started with this adapter from Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Steel-Fitting-Bushing-Female/dp/B00K0D8N92

Then a hex nipple
http://morebeer.com/products/hex-nipple-12in-npt.html

a stainless ball valve
http://morebeer.com/products/stainless-ball-valve-12-full-port.html

and finally a stainless steel QD (to make it easy to connect up to my fermenter.
http://morebeer.com/products/mpt-stainless-steel-female-quick-disconnect.html

I use teflon tape when I put it together and disassemble completely for cleaning after every brew.
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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby Sportyone » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:37 am

Hi Bierfest,

Just recently bought everything you need for new outlet tap from the one place.
Nero Stainless steel fittings.
http://www.nero.co.uk/index.php/

http://www.nero.co.uk/index.php/part-number-rn1208.html Reducing adaptor
http://www.nero.co.uk/index.php/part-number-fbv08.html Full bore valve
http://www.nero.co.uk/index.php/part-number-se08.html 90 degree elbow
http://www.nero.co.uk/index.php/part-number-ht08.html Hosetail barb

Very quick service received mine next day
Hope this helps

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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby Dicko » Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:54 pm

Once Speidel fixed the problem of the plastic insert turning in the tap the tap itself is quite functional EXCEPT for the ridiculous tapered outlet that it has.
I can't see for the life of me why they make it tapered when a straight sided outlet would be suitable and would allow a user to fit a length of silicon hose to the tap without it sliding off.
This would then allow the people who use the "no chill" method a reliable connection for decanting their wort into another vessel for slow cooling.
Only my thoughts of course... :D

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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby Tipsy » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:18 am

I must be using smaller ID silicon to you Dicko. Mine pushes on nicely.

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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby IPA » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:36 am

bierfest wrote:Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM? The whit plastic insert around the tap has moved on mine and now the tap wont flow no matter how you twist it. The tap was always a bit of a pain on the BM anyhow. So im wondering if anybody has changed theirs and if so what is the best tap out there to change it to?


Drop this guy an email he can supply all the bits you need.
http://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/
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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby Dicko » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:38 am

I don't really have a need any more to use any tubing on the tap, however when I did I used 10mm silicon which when it got hot just fell off.
I saw on a u tube vid a guy that had put a clamp on his so maybe that worked OK.
I can see that if you were using a smaller diameter tubing then it may hold on but the physics of a taper with a reasonably malleable hose pushed on may not be as secure as I would like when it comes to 20+ litres of near boiling wort.
I have replaced my tap as per the modification in the above posts and at this stage I don't have plans to go back to the Speidel tap. :D

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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby bierfest » Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:19 am

Thanks for all the answers everybody. Will look into changing it shortly. Pity that it will spoil the look of the unit a little but it is necessary.

The only reason i could think of for the narrow outlet was that if you have your BM a decent length higher than your fermenter it is a good way to aerate the wort as it splashes into the fermenter. However its very close to the unit so any slight breeze means it might not make it right into the fermenter.

Ive also found that it is actually bored a bit too high up in the unit so you really have to tip the unit to get the last bit of wort out.
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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby leosardinha » Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:50 pm

Replaced mine Yesterday.

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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby rocketman » Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:45 pm

And mine for reference.

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I have now changed to a 90 degree elbow.

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Re: Has anybody changed the outlet tap on their BM?

Unread postby royco » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:44 am

Good idea -- I'm going to change to elbow.
BTW is there any negative to using 3/4" fittings seeing as the BM50 has a 3/4" outlet? I have just changed to 3/4 but have not brewed with it yet.
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