How do you get your BM to look new again?

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How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby pmac » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:05 am

As the subject states, what is your cleaning method that makes your BM look sparkling new again?

I have tried a few methods, PBW, Sod Perc soak and I still seem to have beerstone left over. Don't get me wrong, my elements and the kettle are 'clean', but I have read some get it looking brand new again...

I guess a little more elbow grease maybe be needed...

I find a sod perc soak of my fermenters makes it come up trumps...but not my BM

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby dinnerstick » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:27 am

PBW, set to ~80 with the pump on, give it half hour at temp, shut off the BM and leave it a few hours.
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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Lylo » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:50 pm

I use nearly full strength Starsan. It peels that reddish film off the ss real nice. Just mix up about a 1/2 cup of 25% and scrub the BM with a soft rag soaked in it.
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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby pmac » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:49 pm

dinnerstick wrote:PBW, set to ~80 with the pump on, give it half hour at temp, shut off the BM and leave it a few hours.


I assume you fill the BM to the 25ltr mark for this?

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Krmak » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:29 am

dinnerstick where do you get PBW in Europe?

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby niels » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:18 am

Krmak wrote:dinnerstick where do you get PBW in Europe?

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Where are you from? There are several suppliers in the UK and Brouwland (BrewFerm) distributes it on mainland Europe.

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Krmak » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:46 am

I'm from Slovenia niels :) thx for the info :beer:
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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby dinnerstick » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:02 am

pmac wrote:
dinnerstick wrote:PBW, set to ~80 with the pump on, give it half hour at temp, shut off the BM and leave it a few hours.


I assume you fill the BM to the 25ltr mark for this?

Cheers.


i save my cooling water (immersion chiller), fill it back to the kettle after knocking out, top it up so that the water level is above the center post, so the threads also get clean.

i get PBW from van der kooy jubbega, or brouw-markt/land, they only recently started carrying 5-star products like PBW and star san. oxy-clean also does the trick though
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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Batz » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:19 am

dinnerstick wrote:PBW, set to ~80 with the pump on, give it half hour at temp, shut off the BM and leave it a few hours.


Yes PBW, I use it every 6-8 brews, and the BM is looking a bit off by then. I put it in and heat up to around 65C, turn it off and let it sit overnight. In the morning I drain and still need to wipe it over, the film comes off very easy. Spray with the garden hose and it's truly like new again.
I think pure Sodium Percarbonate would work just as well, that's what I'll buy next, much cheaper.

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Dicko » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:00 pm

Batz wrote:
dinnerstick wrote:PBW, set to ~80 with the pump on, give it half hour at temp, shut off the BM and leave it a few hours.


Yes PBW, I use it every 6-8 brews, and the BM is looking a bit off by then. I put it in and heat up to around 65C, turn it off and let it sit overnight. In the morning I drain and still need to wipe it over, the film comes off very easy. Spray with the garden hose and it's truly like new again.
I think pure Sodium Percarbonate would work just as well, that's what I'll buy next, much cheaper.

Batz


I was using PBW but I have found that Sodium Percarbonate does truly work as well if left to soak hot overnite.
I tend to fill my BM up past the scum line from the hot break and add two tablespoons of SP and leave it soak. A hose off and a wipe over the element with a soft non scratch scrubby brings it up like new.
To remove all traces of the alkaline in the SP I spray with my Starsan from a "squirty" bottle and then give it another quick rinse with the hose.

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Batz » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:14 pm

Yes I fill mine pass the hop/break line, I also put the malt pipe and screens in there.

I bought the PBW through a bulk buy, it's still over priced IMO. I can buy a 25kg bag of 100% Sodium Percarbonate quite cheaply.

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Dicko » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:31 pm

Not wanting to go too far of topic here, I have found since I have been getting my PH correct, I have not had that brown beer stone stain that is extremely difficult to get off.
When I first got my BM I was not adjusting PH correctly and the filter plates were becoming very brown.
The PBW was great for removing this but I found that I couldn't use it with the Port Lincoln tap water as it left a crystallised residue inside the BM and I could only dissolve it with neat Starsan.
When I used it with rainwater it was fine.
You are right Batz, the PBW is extremely expensive if you buy it from one of the suppliers.
I got mine in a bulk buy as well from some guys in Adelaide who make up their own buy combining the two chemical ingredients in the original PBW and mixing it in a cement mixer.
Unfortunately in their wisdom they decided not to mix mine but just to put the two ingredients into a plastic bucket with instructions for me to mix it. This was difficult to do properly in a 5 litre bucket.
Unless things change, I am quite happy with the Sodium Percarbonate.

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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Cervantes » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:39 am

Batz wrote: I can buy a 25kg bag of 100% Sodium Percarbonate quite cheaply.


This is what I have done.

And I reckon that the 25 kilos will last a few years, even when using generous measures for cleaning.
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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby Andy_Chil » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:39 pm

Where are you lads sourcing bulk Sodium Percarbonate from in Aus? Keg King in Vic has it in 1kg bags, but something larger would be great.
Does anybody know if PBW, StarSan or SP cause any problems for septic tanks? I'm not on town water or sewer.
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Re: How do you get your BM to look new again?

Unread postby HopSong » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:34 pm

StarSan.. Definitely not. Can't speak for the others.. but, I seriously doubt they would either.. especially with the dilution factor in the tank. PBW is the essentially the same as Oxyclean for laundry enhancing.. SP is also similar IIRC. I believe PBW and Oxy are SP based. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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