First Wort Hopping

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First Wort Hopping

Unread postby Cervantes » Tue May 20, 2014 12:26 pm

Has anyone tried First Wort Hopping in the BM?

Having never brewed on anything but the BM I'm a little bit lost as to when I should add the first wort hops.

Just as I pull the malt pipe?
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby niels » Tue May 20, 2014 12:29 pm

Cervantes wrote:Has anyone tried First Wort Hopping in the BM?

Having never brewed on anything but the BM I'm a little bit lost as to when I should add the first wort hops.

Just as I pull the malt pipe?

I added the FWH when I removed the malt pipe and the temperature was rising to get a boil. It is not the same as putting the FWH in an empty kettle and let the filtered wort flow into this kettle...

Maybe adding the hops just after pulling the malt pipe will be a bit closer to "real" first wort hopping.

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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby luk-cha » Sun May 25, 2014 3:01 pm

Yeah i have pretty much done what Niels did, once after mashing out i lift the malt pipe, add the hops i intend for FWH, then i sparge slow as possible, once the water i have add is finished i lift the malt pipe out and drain it out over a large sauce pan then i hit the heat mode so i guess it gets 20 - 25 mins @ 78C before i start my boil
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby joostdb » Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:35 pm

Yes I FWH as described and mash hop on almost every brew I do :).
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby Dicko » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:18 pm

luk-cha wrote:Yeah i have pretty much done what Niels did, once after mashing out i lift the malt pipe, add the hops i intend for FWH, then i sparge slow as possible, once the water i have add is finished i lift the malt pipe out and drain it out over a large sauce pan then i hit the heat mode so i guess it gets 20 - 25 mins @ 78C before i start my boil


+1 for me as well. :cheers:
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby Elderberry » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:11 am

Not on the BM, but I've done it in the pre-BM days. I find the results to be debatable and overrated; therefore, not worth any extra effort. I know there are others who feel the same.
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby piet_v » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:15 am

Elderberry wrote:I know there are others who feel the same.

Indeed +1
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:46 pm

Hi fellows,

What hop substitution you use to make ?
- middle-boil (15-20min) hop to FWH
- late-boil (0-5min) hop to FWH

How much hop?
- 30% of the total hop addition?
- 30% of the middle/late hop addition?
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby gert » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:33 am

piet_v wrote:
Elderberry wrote:I know there are others who feel the same.

Indeed +1


and +1

What I do: I add a bit of my 60 min bitterhop after sparging and when temperature is 90°. This way the wort will not boil over.
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby luk-cha » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:35 am

i have starting using FWH exclusively for my total bittering addition, for example on a pale ale i will aim for 14 - 16 IBU's (calculated via brewtoad) i do find it gives a smoother longer bitterness, them i normally hop burst in the last 15 mins, i perhaps use twice as many hops but i find i get more distinct flavor i am looking for than if i did normal hop additions
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby Wolfman » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:24 am

Have any of you FWHoppers had problems with hops in the pump? I like to FWH but am worried about hops/flowers blocking up the pump.

I suppose once the pump is turned off you could add hops, but not really FWH is it?
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby dinnerstick » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:44 am

i'm not really a FWH believer, but you face the same problems as with running the pump to cool the wort, a topic on which there has been a lot of discussion. i guess the only difference might be if you have a hop strainer/spider you may not be able to get it into the kettle as you are running off wort (lautering, but it's weird to call it lautering with the BM since it's so fast). anyways, pellet hops are fine in moderation, and i'm guessing for a FWH addition you aren't adding a huge amount, but for whole cones you definitely need a bag or some other way of keeping them out of the pump inlet(s).
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby dinnerstick » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:45 am

of course you don't need to run the pump to heat up to boiling, nor to cool, it just speeds things up. you can always cancel the brew after mashing and boil in manual mode with the pump off.
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby RobW » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:19 am

I FWH using a hop sock for pellets and flowers.
It works fine although I would prefer one of the Utah Biodiesel filters:

https://utahbiodieselsupply.com/brewing ... umeister20

Postage to Aus is a deterrent though.
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Re: First Wort Hopping

Unread postby Dicko » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:57 am

Wolfman wrote:Have any of you FWHoppers had problems with hops in the pump? I like to FWH but am worried about hops/flowers blocking up the pump.

I suppose once the pump is turned off you could add hops, but not really FWH is it?


I think you would be correct and personally if I were to FWH with flowers I would put them in a bag or get a hop spider or if you are really rich you could buy the genuine basket from Spiedel.
I have not had any problems with FWH with pellets with the pump running
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