No sparging ...

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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lylo » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:05 pm

This one was 31 L water with 4.6 kg grain bill. The last on I did had 31.5 L and 5.2Kg grain bill and still had room.
I wasn't planning on going for a run today but those cops came from nowhere!
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Victor Coelho » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:36 am

Wow! Never thought it could be that full!
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lac » Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:55 am

I just brewed an IPA where I had 5.7 kg. malt and 33.5 liters of water in at the same time, but it is also close to the BM 20 is full.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lylo » Sun Jun 22, 2014 12:56 pm

What kind of gravity did yuou get woth that. My guess about 1.062.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lac » Sun Jun 22, 2014 1:11 pm

Lylo wrote:What kind of gravity did yuou get woth that. My guess about 1.062.


I got 1.061
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby paulg » Sun Jun 22, 2014 2:27 pm

lac
how many litres into the fermenter, I am assuming the 1.061 was after the boil
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lac » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:50 pm

I got 20.5 liters in the fermenter and yes it was after boiling.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby airborn » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:10 am

How has your experience with this "no sparge" method been since jun. 2014 when this thread stopped?
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lylo » Fri Dec 05, 2014 1:06 pm

I still do it on all brews.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Nesto » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:05 pm

No sparging on any brews since my first try.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Cervantes » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:29 am

No sparging works fine.

I often don't sparge when I do an overnight mash as I don't have any sparge water heated.

I just give the grain a good squeeze and go straight to the boil. I still hit my target gravities and often overshoot.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Avispartner » Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:58 pm

Code: Select all
BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: 523 Winterbliss Clone
Brewer: Robert Schenk
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 23.71 l
Post Boil Volume: 21.71 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 20.00 l   
Bottling Volume: 20.70 l
Estimated OG: 1.069 SG
Estimated Color: 22.6 EBC
Estimated IBU: 58.9 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 80.6 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
26.00 l               Neunkirch - Hintergasse 11               Water         1        -             
4.70 kg               Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC)         Grain         2        80.3 %       
1.00 kg               Caraamber (Weyermann) (70.9 EBC)         Grain         3        17.1 %       
0.15 kg               Oats, Flaked (2.0 EBC)                   Grain         4        2.6 %         
30.00 g               Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min        Hop           5        47.2 IBUs     
0.50 Items            Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)        Fining        6        -             
15.00 g               Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min   Hop           7        4.9 IBUs     
15.00 g               Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min          Hop           8        6.9 IBUs     
1.0 pkg               American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast         9        -             
10.00 g               Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Day Hop           10       0.0 IBUs     
10.00 g               Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days       Hop           11       0.0 IBUs     


Mash Schedule: Braumeister 4 step full body 73% efficiency
Total Grain Weight: 5.85 kg
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Name                              Description                                      Step Temperatur Step Time     
add malt pipe                     Add 26.59 l of water and heat to 40.0 C over 20  40.0 C          0 min         
Rest Grits before Mashing Process Add 0.00 l of water at 40.0 C                    40.0 C          15 min       
Protein Mode                      Heat to 52.0 C over 5 min                        52.0 C          10 min       
Maltose mode                      Heat to 63.0 C over 5 min                        63.0 C          20 min       
Saccharification 1                Heat to 73.0 C over 5 min                        73.0 C          35 min       
Mash Out                          Heat to 78.0 C over 5 min                        78.0 C          20 min       

Sparge: Fly sparge with 2.99 l water at 78.0 C
Notes:
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So I have started to prepare my yeast starter today and will have my next brew day in a good weeks' time.

I am tempted to try a non-sparging process. Does that mean, I will just add those 2.99l of sparging water mentioned in my above recipe to the initial mashing water and that's it?
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby stevodevo » Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:59 pm

Would this method reduce the chances of a wort fountain happening? I'm just thinking the large volume of water above the grains might be enough to absorb the focussed pressure of the fountain if it were to happen.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Avispartner » Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:48 pm

stevodevo wrote:Would this method reduce the chances of a wort fountain happening? I'm just thinking the large volume of water above the grains might be enough to absorb the focussed pressure of the fountain if it were to happen.

I don't think the water pressure is big enough to suppress wort fountains...guess the pressure coming from the pump is too strong. I am going to pay extra attention to not milling the malt too fine, that might help best
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby bruulog » Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:38 pm

If you get fountains, stop - mix the grains again and continue.
I try to use as little water as possible for the mash in 50 l BM.
Has anyone attempted 30 l 7 kg in 50 l without the short malt-pipe and then sparge with 25 l water.
Less water helps to bring out the malt taste and this is what I like to achieve in my English bitters.
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