No sparging ...

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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Nesto » Fri May 30, 2014 11:56 pm

Lylo wrote:That is what we are talking about. Over filling. Using the full volume of water in the vessel.
These are the steps that I use.
Fill the BM with the volume of water I calculate I will need.
Heat to dough in temp.
drain down to about 25l.
Dough in.
Refill the BM with water with the water that you drained off. This will be close to the top of the vessel
Mash as usual.
Carefully remove the hold down nut and bar.( I use silicone glove for this)
Remove malt pipe and set aside to drain.
Start ramping to boil.
Pour draining into boil and proceed as usual.


Ok, you've convinced me to at least give it a try. I just hope I don't splash and burn :mrgreen:

One question... when you raise the malt pipe at the end of the mash, is there enough room for it to drain into the BM (i.e., is the bottom of the malt pipe still in wort?), or do you take the malt pipe off immediately and drain in a bucket?
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lylo » Sat May 31, 2014 1:03 pm

My note taking and meaurements leave much to be desired. Definitely no drop in efficiency as I am hitting my target gravities.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:44 pm

But you could still sparge the malt pipe when it is sitting on top of a bucket so you get some extra wort for e.g. starters..


Niels,

At what temperature do you place the wort reserved for a next starter?
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lac » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:02 am

Then I tried a brew again with no sparge, this time I combined it with long time mashing, a total of 10 hours from Mash In until I started to boil, got a efficiency of 76%.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Baldbrewer » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:02 pm

That's what I do, I treat all water with Campden tablet and CRS then draw off 2-8 litres for sparge, the grains get salts.


How much CRS do you use Brewtim ?
Is it - 20l or 50l Braumeister?

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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby BrauTim » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:42 pm

Baldbrewer wrote:
That's what I do, I treat all water with Campden tablet and CRS then draw off 2-8 litres for sparge, the grains get salts.


How much CRS do you use Brewtim ?
Is it - 20l or 50l Braumeister?

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It's 50L. It's pointless stating how much CRS I use as it varies each brewday and my Alkalinity will be different to everyone elses, but for info, it has been up to 1.6ml/l sometimes less.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Baldbrewer » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:58 pm

Very true my bad , I live in South Northamptonshire and use 20 ml for 26 litres .
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Cervantes » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:39 pm

Okay. I have to ask. What is CRS?
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby rocketman » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:34 am

Cervantes wrote:Okay. I have to ask. What is CRS?

I didn't know either, but I think after some searching that it's:
Carbonate Reducing Solution (CRS). An acid blend that neutralises carbonates without the need to boil.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Batz » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:36 am

Lylo wrote:I've only done it twice but really like the method.


I brew every two weeks when I'm at home, I do a double batch and always sparge overnight now. It a such a time saving method, I do get up at around 6.00am to start the boil but I love brew days.!!

I must say I have only done Saisons and dark beers with this method.

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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby royco » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:03 am

My swimming pool is 16°C at the moment so an overnight dip gets exactly to pitch temp. Of course I sanitize the cube cap area to preempt contamination. Because I do not have a a proper brew room set up (yet) the chill step using either IC or Therminator very stressful. :D
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby paulg » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:19 pm

for those asking about CRS and DLS these are water treatments readily available in the UK but not seen elsewhere

SEE HERE
http://www.brupaks.com/brewing-aids.htm

the same items are sold by murphy & son as AMS & DWB
http://www.murphyhomebrew.com/liquor-tr ... cat_5.html
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Cervantes » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:32 am

Thanks Paul
Cheers :cheers:
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby Lylo » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:03 pm

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Full volume brewing with the 20L Braumeister.
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Re: No sparging ...

Unread postby niels » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:00 pm

Lylo wrote:Full volume brewing with the 20L Braumeister.

How much grain and mashing water is this?

I can't seem to get my BM 100% level so my wort clatters (?) a bit. This full volume brewing definitely reduces the height the wort has to fall.

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