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Unread postby dazer23866 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:13 am

anyone else notice this, when i fill in with water the temperature on my machine reads the same as all of my other thermometers, but when up to mash temperature its 3 degrees out so my machine reads 68 degrees and all other thermometers read 65 degrees
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby dazer23866 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:17 am

just to update on this i think temperature is all over the place machine says 69 degrees thermometer reads 63 degrees that's a big difference
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby Growler » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:53 pm

I would calibrate your thermometer. Having worked in the food industry all most every cheap to medium priced thermometer can be out by several degrees. At my brew club we had a scientist bring in a calibration machine and from memory we tested over 30 brew club members hand held thermometers and not one was within one degree of the correct temperature.

I'd trust your BM temp reading.
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby dazer23866 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:38 am

they have been calibrated because i suspected something was wrong with my BM I have checked the temp with 3 different thermometers and they all read 3 degrees below what the BM does
i have checked temp with
Therma 3 comark km14 and one other that i forgot the name of and they all give readings 3 below the BM
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby mashy » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:55 pm

You could check the boiling temp against what it should be for your elevation??

http://www.whatismyelevation.com

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boili ... _1344.html
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby dazer23866 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:38 pm

mashy wrote:You could check the boiling temp against what it should be for your elevation??

http://www.whatismyelevation.com

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boili ... _1344.html



should be 99.7c braumeister reads 102c my other thermometers read 99.5 -99.8c
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby mashy » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:40 pm

So I think you either need to calibrate it or replace it then? Good spot.
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby Biermeister » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:43 pm

Does the Braumeister read 102 or do you have the temp set to 102 to ensure the heating element stays on?
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby dazer23866 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:46 pm

Biermeister wrote:Does the Braumeister read 102 or do you have the temp set to 102 to ensure the heating element stays on?

Both set to 102c and reading 102c
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby johnrm » Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:01 am

Where are you taking your temp reading?
At the same point as the BM probe?
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby dazer23866 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:40 am

johnrm wrote:Where are you taking your temp reading?
At the same point as the BM probe?


No submerged in the malt pipe
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby johnrm » Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:29 pm

This is what I would do.
Fill out with water enough to cover elements.
Turn on pump and set temp to 20, then 30, etc., up to 100.
Check with a calibrated thermo at the probe.
I picked up a thermapen recently, I must do just this.
Is there any way to calibrate the BM?

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Re: temperature out

Unread postby mashy » Thu Oct 13, 2016 6:23 am

johnrm wrote:Sent from my Samsung Note Sev... Fire! Fire!


Lol
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby eric » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:58 am

This is the story that Speidel is not interested to really talk about. I believe its beacause there is not much to tell and not much to do about.

I have two 50L BM-s (with the old controller) and one 20L BM (with a new controller). Couple months ago the temperature sensor from one of the 50L BM.s broke down. I bought a new one. So when the next brewday game i filled machines with cold tap water and found out that the braumeister that had new temp. sensor showed temperture of tap water 17 C, the second 50L BM and the 20L BM showed both 12 C. Now thats a huge difference. So my next step was warming up water to 48 C and measure temperature manually. So now the BM with a new sensor showed 45 C (so with water warming up it started to show more not less!) but the other two BM-s showed 47C and 48C. Next step 67C (and thats still with water only, pumps on). Measuring manually the BM with a new sensor showed actually 63C, the other two (20 and 50 L) showed 66-67C. I'm very OK with the other two, but the first one is too much. I do understand that this is an open system and the temperature reading can be different but with other two machines sitting next and showing totally different numbers then its not OK.

I did write to Speidel about this one, but i never got a message back. I dont know if i have to buy a new temp. sensors and hope that this one comes little more accurate or just use this and modify my recipe for this BM so the 67 is actually 63 and so on :)
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Re: temperature out

Unread postby mashy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:03 am

I am thinking something needs calibrating ? Can that be done on the settings in a BM?
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