BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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There does seem to be a "problem" then as more of us are finding out.....

john.donovan62 wrote: In my instruction booklet it says it will start the boil timer after no temp increase over two minutes.



the fault then looks to be where there's no temp rise for 2/3 mins??? I can't remember reading that, I will find my booklet out tonight and have another look.

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Munz wrote:... pouring the last of the drained wort from the malt pipe in at around the same time. 500ml or so of "cool" wort poured back I.....
Good point. I do that! This is one to watch next time I do a brew.

Does this 2 minutes rule apply to gen 1 BM?

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+1 mash I've added the same.

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mashy wrote:
Munz wrote:... pouring the last of the drained wort from the malt pipe in at around the same time. 500ml or so of "cool" wort poured back I.....
Good point. I do that! This is one to watch next time I do a brew.

Does this 2 minutes rule apply to gen 1 BM?
Pretty much, according to documentation, 3 mins above 95C will start the boil timer on Gen 1 hardware. I make sure to pour the extra wort in before I get to 90C. If the boil timer trips before then, there's an issue.
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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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I feel a label coming on. "Nil after 90" stuck on my lid insulation.

I tend to get to boil quite fast so this is something I need to take care with. I bet I have done it before and not noticed.

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Just an update on this....after a couple of emails to and from Speidel, the last one stated....

quote Speidel

"Hi Brian,

you will have no problem with this what is written in the forum.
Those who have a problem should claim it at their local dealer to solve the problem.

Regards"


It all boils down (pardon the pun)... if you have a problem that the BM has to be returned so that it can be fixed....free of charge one hopes??? :roll:

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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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Also, remember that the viscosity/SG of the liquid will also affect its boiling point...speaking as an engineer :geek:

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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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I know this is an old thread but the following may be of help to others. I has two recent brews where the boil started early. I contacted my supplier (BrewUK) for advice, quoting this thread in the email. They spoke to Braumeister and replied with the following;
Regarding the braumesiter query, this is what the supplier has said......
Please go to the settings at the controller.
There you press
4 x arrow down
3 x arrow up
1 x arrow down
1 x arrow up

Than up to T_GRAD and confirm.
Now you get a value which is maybe 240 and set it 60s higher to 300.

Mine is a 20l model purchased in June 2015. This worked for me. The original setting was 180 and I changed it to 240.
The series if up and down arrow presses reveals two more menu options, one was the the T_GRAD mentioned here. The other was 'calibration'. I wasn't adventurous enough to explore that.
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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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BM10, same boil issue....controler was upgraded few days ago...did not reach 100ºC
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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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richardm wrote:I know this is an old thread but the following may be of help to others. I has two recent brews where the boil started early. I contacted my supplier (BrewUK) for advice, quoting this thread in the email. They spoke to Braumeister and replied with the following;
Regarding the braumesiter query, this is what the supplier has said......
Please go to the settings at the controller.
There you press
4 x arrow down
3 x arrow up
1 x arrow down
1 x arrow up

Than up to T_GRAD and confirm.
Now you get a value which is maybe 240 and set it 60s higher to 300.

Mine is a 20l model purchased in June 2015. This worked for me. The original setting was 180 and I changed it to 240.
The series if up and down arrow presses reveals two more menu options, one was the the T_GRAD mentioned here. The other was 'calibration'. I wasn't adventurous enough to explore that.
Ok, gonna give this try. Did it work for others?

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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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Nothing from speidel technical support?

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Re: BM Starting the Boil Too Early

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bardevjen wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2019 10:48 am
Nothing from speidel technical support?
The instructions I quoted are from Braumeister via BrewUK. The change seems to be to lengthen the time with no temp rise before starting the boil
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