My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

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My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:09 am

I wanted more options than the 50L brau could give so upgraded to a 114L ss brewkettle.
Brew day went very well. I ended up brewing 120L of english Meantime IPA. Its bubbling away now.Image

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby redwing_al » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:54 am

awesome set up, man!
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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:24 pm

Thanks Bro. Its a work in progress.

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby royco » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:47 am

Hey Gav, looks neat, but where does the BM50 come into the process?
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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:56 am

royco wrote:Hey Gav, looks neat, but where does the BM50 come into the process?

I put 10kg grain in the brau and 17 or so in the ss kettle. Then use the brau to step mash the ss kettle.
I have everything ready to go for tomorrow.
I have 2 unknownes. The ss kettle grain absorption and the temp ramp speed of the brau with the extra load.
Set efficiency to 74% last brew and got pretty close.

Here are pics of the pumps setup.

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:57 am

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Cervantes » Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:20 am

Gav wrote:I put 10kg grain in the brau and 17 or so in the ss kettle. Then use the brau to step mash the ss kettle.
I have everything ready to go for tomorrow.
I have 2 unknowns. The ss kettle grain absorption and the temp ramp speed of the brau with the extra load.
Set efficiency to 74% last brew and got pretty close.


Please let us know how this goes.

I like the idea and would be keen to try it myself.

Do you plan to recirculate between the BM and kettle for the full duration of the mash?

Will the fact that you are pumping from the BM during the mash prevent the BM from pumping water up through the malt pipe? I'd guess not as you'd be drawing wort from outside of the malt pipe.
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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:32 am

Tried uploading vid of the brewday but app keeps shutting down.

Everything worked perfect. Used the chugger and march pump to raise the temp in the ss kettle.
Ended up with 120L of wort at the end because I underestimated my efficiency which is about 82% after stepped mash.

Didnt sparge at all but had to dilute to get from 1.060 to 1.045 for the kolsch.

Ill update with a vid when i can work it out.

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Cervantes » Sat Apr 16, 2016 10:16 am

Keen to see the video
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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:39 am

Im uploading the video to youtube now so ill paste a link in this thread.
Im really happy with the system and all thats left to do is dial in the efficiency and beef up the kettle stand. Also a few minor changes to the setup just to make the brewday a little easier.
From making the recipe and milling the grain to all cleaned up and packed away was roughly 13 hours.
I went a full 5 step mash schedule and 90 min boil though. So i could knock the brewday down to about half that depending on what im brewing but hey, 13 hours and the potential of 150L of beer is awsome if you ask me.

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:01 pm

https://youtu.be/3K_B1RB9d4I

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby ibbones » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:25 pm

Nice looking setup. It looked like it worked really well. :cheers:
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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Cervantes » Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:49 am

So how were the ramp times with having to heat all of the extra water?

Did you recirculate for the full duration of the mash? Or just when ramping up to temperature?

How did you balance the pumps in the end? Just partially close one of the valves?
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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Gav » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:04 am

Cervantes wrote:So how were the ramp times with having to heat all of the extra water?

Did you recirculate for the full duration of the mash? Or just when ramping up to temperature?

How did you balance the pumps in the end? Just partially close one of the valves?

Ramp time was 2 min 20 sec per degree.

Yes recirculated the whole mash duration from 36 deg mash in to 78 mash out.

I had the 809 march pump fully open and the chugger pump partially closed. Once balanced i only checked the level every hour.

Over all the heating of the mash worked really well. Efficiency was up around 82 to 84%. I still had crystal clear wort at mashout.

I just need to change a couple of features on the stand and make some rollers for the hoist and ill be pretty much done.

I was thinking of brewing 140 litres next just to see how it would go and that way i can have 2 chronicles full and a spare cube for down the track.

Its a pretty cheap way to brew larger batches utilising the brau.

Just trying to get my ftss kit to get the kolsch down to 3 degrees. Sitting on 7 now. Should get it down by tomorrow then ill transfer to kegs.

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Re: My new Brew setup for up to 150L batches

Unread postby Cervantes » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:09 pm

Thanks for that.

I'm keen to give this a try when I next brew a lager. Only on a smaller scale as I have a 20L BM and a keg converted into a kettle.

Just need another pump, or alternatively look into whether I could do this with a gravity drain from the BM to the keg and pump back to the BM.
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