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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby cpa4ny » Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:41 am

whitegoose wrote:That's it, I'm in.

So, if I contact this guy and ask for a custom in-kettle hop filter - 6" (15 cm) in diameter and 12" in depth (30 cm) - he'll give me exactly what you've got there? Did you need to ask for the hooks/braces for hanging it on the side?



Ye - the hooks and braces come with the filter.

What I have done, I just referred to his website: http://arborfab.com/ocart/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=89

And asked to extend the filter by another inch - from 6"x11" to 6"x12".

dinnerstick wrote:
...and didn't get a reply!



Chad's direct email is [email protected] " target="_blank - he responded to my queries quite expeditiously. Definitely within 24 hours.
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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby fy0d0r » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:15 am

Guys, has anyone discussed the size/price of the 50L filter with Chad ?

I'm trying to decide between the Chad's filter vs. DIY (mesh itself is available from aliexpress at about $20/meter)
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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby smeller » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:55 pm

I don't own a Braumeister (just thinking about buying one) but saw this solution on another site:
http://humle.se/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=2136&p=14

Hop filter
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The whirlpool attachment method could also be used to "automatically" CIP clean/backflush the tap or an platechiller with the built-in Braumeister pump, by having a silicon hose going from the tube bend on the inside, to the outside connection on the tap.

To avoid using an extra pump like in this thread
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What do you think?
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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby Dan » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:01 am

I've used up to 150g of pellets in my 20L and had no issues with the pump blocking. However, if you use flowers, that hop sock looks neat!
Whirlpool attachment looks great too. But I believe that trying to get a trub cone is pointless with the BM. Had this conversation with Dicko today and we both agreed that so long as you use a floccing agent and settle for 1/2 - 1 hr, the trub should settle well enough that you won't pick any up. In fact you will pretty much always need to tilt the BM to get all the clear wort out.
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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby Dicko » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:11 am

As Dan said above, I have given up on trying to get a whirlpool cone with my 20l BM.
I find there is enough dead space below the outlet (without any pick up fitted) to allow the trub and hops to settle and still draw plenty of wort from the kettle.
Depending on the recipe I usually have a couple of litres in deadspace at the most and sometimes half of that will be hop debris.

I do like the look of smellers hop sock above:)
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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby Tverd » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:35 pm

Here is the filter I'm thinking about http://www.stainlessbrewing.com/Hop-Spider-with-seam-welds_p_158.html

This filter is being made of 400 micron mesh and it can be trimmed down by ordinary scissors. So I think to order 18" filter and then adjust it to a shorter length to fit in my 20l Braumeister. I'm not sure but probably 18" is enough for 50l BM also.
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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby madball50l » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:04 am

if you use whole hop cones will it block the pump?? has any had this issue?
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RE: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby dinnerstick » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:34 am

yes they will block the pump. it's fine if you don't run the pump during cooling, but still you run into the general problem with whole cones- they soak up a lot of wort! so it's always nice to be able to strain them out to some extent before you let the trub settle.
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Re: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby fy0d0r » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:35 pm

I've been exchanging E-mails with Chad and he has designed a special filter for BM.

It is not on the site yet, but can be ordered for $110 (for 50L)
Picture from Chad attached.

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Re: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby leosardinha » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:54 pm

This is really cool!
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Re: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:55 pm

This weekend I am brewing a Saison de Pipaix-inspired Saison, so I will have a chance to test it out (with ginger, pepper corns, star anise, orange peel, etc - going all in).


I'm anxiously to hear about the results of your new hop sieve.
I'm also looking for a solution to this issue.
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Re: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby cpa4ny » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:49 am

Luis Coentrao wrote:
This weekend I am brewing a Saison de Pipaix-inspired Saison, so I will have a chance to test it out (with ginger, pepper corns, star anise, orange peel, etc - going all in).


I'm anxiously to hear about the results of your new hop sieve.
I'm also looking for a solution to this issue.


Used it on a number of brews - love it!

After each use boil it in PBW to prevent the small hop particles blocking the filter holes.

Will post the photos in the Pub section. :drink:
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Re: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby niels » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:41 am

fy0d0r wrote:I've been exchanging E-mails with Chad and he has designed a special filter for BM.

It is not on the site yet, but can be ordered for $110 (for 50L)

That is one sexy hop spider! Do you know the dimensions (hence the amount of hops that it can hold)?

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Re: Combined hop filter and dip tube

Unread postby fy0d0r » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:14 am

On the sizing:
Chad can make any size by request
The one on his photo is 6" in diameter, he told me that he has recently shipped 8" to some other BM50 user.

I've done some measurements and photos inside my BM this morning.

The 8" will fit fine inside the heating coils and my hand-made immersion chiller so I'll be able to put in the chiller not removing the hop filter.

A few points that should be accounted in the design from my perspective:
Diameter - planning to order 7" as 7 is more than 6 :-), and will allow some flow around the filter.
Height - I'm thinking about 19" (the central rod is 20" from the base to the top and malt pipe is 19") so I can fix the filter by the same nut that fixes the pipe
Base - (the most tricky bit) one should account for the rod's base (6/8" high), temp sensor (which is 1 1/4" inch high) and in my case the "Whirpool Elbows" (which are 1 1/4" as well), so you can't just rest the filter on top of all that and should add some legs at least 1 1/2" high.
Volume marks - as the filter will cover the volume marks on the rod, it would be great to replicate them on the filter (I use them to assess the evaporation during the boil).

I'll try to do some sketch to illustrate the proposed design later on, any comments on the proposed design are more than welcome.

Here's a few photos to illustrate (sorry for the quality, it is really hard to make photos inside the BM).
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