Bacbrewing yield increase disc

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Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby hughjampton » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:10 am

This is a disk that sits on top of the malt tube to increase the amount of grain it can hold. I don't read Italian and there is no English translation. It seems expensive for what it is although it does include a new sieve which is held on with a silicone ring. From what I can make out it increases the amount by 23% on the 20L BM.

It seems like a good idea. The only drawback I can think of is that the amount of grain might reduce the flow and make the pump work harder.

This is the page for the 50L BM
http://www.bacbrewing.com/epages/990497 ... B.BM50.003
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby big_o » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:17 pm

It does look like a good idea but like you I consider it to be too expensive.
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby Cervantes » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:33 pm

Don't most people just turn their existing top plate upside down to achieve similar results?
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby squadricus » Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:51 pm

I think the large stainless colander I picked up at the Viet market could be modified to hold even more grain.
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby RichM » Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:21 pm

been watching waiting for someone more knowledgable to suggest that there's a really good reason to extend the malt pipe, as i can't see a point to this, i no longer sparge and instead heat up my total water at the start, draw of a few litres to fit the grain pipe, grain and then re fill, the water tops the grain pipe doing it this way, so would having even more grain in mean you'd need even more water, or would you be reduced to sparging again to create sufficient space

£53 doesn't seem all that bad int he grand scheme of things considering Bacbrew stuff is well made.
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby OllieBBommel » Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:45 pm

The bottom of the page shows the language indicator: Italian or English.
I've set this once and it stays that way.
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby hughjampton » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:37 am

OllieBBommel wrote:The bottom of the page shows the language indicator: Italian or English.
I've set this once and it stays that way.
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That only works if the page has been translated into English. It hasn't yet.
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby mashy » Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:33 am

Am I missing the point?
Is this just a slightly larger diameter top plate?

If so why not a bit of thick silicone around the original one and pop it in upside down?
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby Dicko » Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:36 am

Guys and Gals,

I merged the two topics into one as the original post was double posted.

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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby kahobro » Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:46 am

Cervantes wrote:Don't most people just turn their existing top plate upside down to achieve similar results?

That's what I do with good results.
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby JBrew » Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:24 am

Hi,
kahobro wrote:That's what I do with good results.

How many grain with this technique ? 7kg ?
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby Kyle_T » Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:54 am

JBrew wrote:Hi,
kahobro wrote:That's what I do with good results.

How many grain with this technique ? 7kg ?


A quick sum and the extra yield plates would give an increase of 1.38kg on a standard 6kg grist, a total of 7.38kg capacity. I too am interested to see the difference in turning your filter plate upside down.
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby kahobro » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:13 am

JBrew wrote:Hi,
kahobro wrote:That's what I do with good results.

How many grain with this technique ? 7kg ?

I haven't measured exactly but the difference between the extra yield plates and turning the filter plate upside down will be that the standard plate is inside the malt pipe and the extra yield plate is on top.
So the difference between the two would be the thickness of the plate, like 2 mm or so. I add a washer on top if I use the filter plate upside down so 4 mm use of the malt pipe will be approx. the difference.

Stirring is very difficult without spilling if the malt pipe is full with the plate upside down and will be next to impossible if filled maximally with the extra yield plate. There will be difference in efficiency if you fill it extremely because of that. So the extra yield in gravity points becomes academic when adding an extra 500g if that makes stirring impossible.

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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby MattSR » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:52 pm

Hi Hans, what difference in efficiency do you see in stirring vs not stirring?
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Re: Bacbrewing yield increase disc

Unread postby kahobro » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:11 am

MattSR wrote:Hi Hans, what difference in efficiency do you see in stirring vs not stirring?

Some percents, up to 5% for me, depending on OG.
Sometimes it doesn't matter at all, sometimes it does. If you search the forum you will find that in general BM users find it increases the efficiency enough to make it worth the trouble.
Others will do an no-sparge (search on that) and report equally high efficiencies.
Others (I've seen it mainly on the dutch forum) see a thicker mash gives a better body.

Try the different options for yourself or just pick a method and stick with it if the result pleases you.

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