Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

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Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:07 pm

Hi Guys,

Anyone with experience with this systems?

http://www.lindr.cz/products/kontakt-40

If so, what dispensing pressure do you setup in your CO2 manometer?
As an example, your Keg is sitting outside at ambient temperature of 20C, your beer has been previously carbonated in the fridge with 2.6 CO2 vol. and you want to keep your carbonation level (CO2 equilibrium pressure) in order to avoid over/under-carbonation problems?

Assume you have sufficient beer line length to tap the Keg to the machine.

Cheers.

PS: I think these machines are also commercialized by Speidel
PS2: it sounds like a Quiz question :mrgreen:
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby dinnerstick » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:07 pm

i have that exact tap system. love it. portable, super fast to cool. very high quality. carbonate as you would normally, and use the lindr chart to determine the pushing pressure. if you are used to kegerator serving pressure this will seem an outrageously high number. but just dial up the pressure before serving, and it will go perfectly. it is not dependent on beer line length in the same way as cold-keg systems as you are pushing the beer under high pressure and then cooling, rather than cooling and then pushing. the pressure can be dampened down at the tap with the little valve levers, i forget what they are called, but it works extremely well.
i would consider buying the cleaning kit they sell as well.
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:52 pm

Thanks,

Where can I get the Lindr chart to determine the CO2 pressure?
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby dinnerstick » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:32 am

i'm sure one comes with the machine. i don't have it at home so i can't check at the minute, when the co-owner gets home i'll have him find it. (but i think he's in ireland and i'm just off to portugal.... we're so worldly).
and 'compensator' was the word that i couldn't think of. i would definitely get the one with compensators and adjustable cooler.
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:39 am

Well,
So you are pretty close to my homeplace :beerbang:
Vacations in Portugal? Porto ou Lisboa?
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby dinnerstick » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:49 am

uma semana em lisboa! 1st time, i've only been to madeira before. haven't planned much of anything, any recommendations? i like: seafood, wine, beer, walking around, sausages.
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby dinnerstick » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:12 pm

update: my co-conspirator (he's a bartender, so he does the business end of setting up the tap system at festivals) said that the lindr chart is useless. according to him, for a room temperature keg that was already carbonated to your desired level, you will need between 2 and 2.2 bar. counterintuitively (if like me you are used to kegerators) if it comes out foamy you need to increase the pressure, and close down the compensator. the carbonation level in your beer won't really change since you aren't going to be leaving the keg on that pressure for very long in general, and anyways at 20 degrees, between 2 and 2.2 bar is in the 2.5 volumes CO2 range (i think... can look it up.). I know i already said it but we're both very impressed with the lindr, it's not cheap but it's sturdy, functional, top quality. and no they aren't paying me to say that!
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:04 pm

:beerbang:

Regarding your trip to Lisboa:
- Bairro Alto: very nice place to visit, lots of pubs and restaurants, casas de fado
- Cascais and Sintra: a must, probably one of the niceest landscapes in Europe
- Downtown, Belém: probably you already visit (the famous pasteis de Belem)
- Cais do Sodre: nightpubs...

If you wanna come to Porto (2h30 trip by train) you've very welcome.

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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby dinnerstick » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:14 am

thanks for the tips. definitely going to sintra, and staying very near barrio alto. i don't think we'll make the trip to porto this time. but i do have a mate there who does eco-tourism from his retired fishing boat, so need to go at some point!
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby bierfest » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:17 pm

Slightly off topic.. any tips on craft / good beers for Lisbon.. heading for a few days after the weekend.
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:06 pm

Look for:
- Lisbeer
- Enólogos amadores
- Cerveteca

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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby bierfest » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:14 am

Luis Coentrao wrote:Look for:
- Lisbeer
- Enólogos amadores
- Cerveteca

:cheers:


Cheers Luis Coentrao!
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby dinnerstick » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:57 am

to continue the off topic diversion, i spent a week there a few weeks back, first time. i only drank wine, water and coffee. in the trendy mercado da ribiera, giant food market with fancy restaurant stalls, there was a beer booth in the middle where you could get 6 or so different beers, i think all made by whoever makes the ubiquitous super bock. didn't try though... wasn't that curious. highly recommend the market though.
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby bierfest » Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:48 pm

To finish my off topicness :-)

Went to Lisbon last weekend. Managed to find a suprising amount of Craft beer.. I do like Port though :-)

Visited the market mentioned by Dinnerstick. Nice place - great wine and food selection.
I also got to Lisbeer mentioned by Luis Coentrao - nice little bar. Its only new and open about a month according to the owner. They had quite a selection of Portugese craft beer (more than 20) as well as other global craft beers. The quality of some of the local craft beers was fantastic including a really awesome strong porter which i have forgotten the name of. Definitely worth a visit.
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Re: Draught Beer Cooling and Dispensing Systems

Unread postby Luis Coentrao » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:49 am

let me guess,
Passarola
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