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Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby mashy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:50 am

I always prefer to buy, whole leaf hops.
Yesterday I bought pellets as there was no choice.
Do other people prefer whole or pellets and why?
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby Everhopfull » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:33 pm

Always use pellets. I seem to achieve increased hop flavour/ aroma with a given amount compared to flowers. They dissolve in hot wort so probably circulate a bit better.
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby gandalf the brew » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:33 pm

I prefer pellets for both the boil & dry hopping.
They have about a 10% gain in alpha acids because they have more surface area when they dissolve, "so I've been told".
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby Mashman » Mon Aug 27, 2018 4:03 pm

I like both, whole hops provide a good filter at the end of the boil while pellets need filtering, so I often use whole hops for early bittering and pellets for late additions, or tother way round. I sometimes buy a larger quantity of hops and split to freeze, pellets are easy, whole hops are a nightmare :shock:

I sometimes use CO2 extract for bittering and pellets for late additions and use a muslin cloth to filter.

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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby mashy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:57 pm

Do they fall through a hop stainer then?

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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby Onthebrew » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:53 pm

No you will be fine. I had about 180g of pellets in the Mj spider on Saturday.

I used to go for whole but moved to pellets for all hop foward beers. Also I use geterbrewed a lot and they only do pellets. However whole hops as mashman says act as a filter and keep much of the break material in kettle so I miss that.
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby mashy » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:26 am

Thanks chaps. Sounds like I might be a convert.

I never normally use more than 100-120g. The profile for most of my beers is hop forward.

Since I have been using the lower pump tap with a good whirlpool, filtering trub isn't an issue.
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby grooves » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:09 pm

I have mostly moved to pellets, mainly because you can order in 1g increments for GetErBrewed and TheMaltMiller - so there are large cost savings to be made over buying 100g bags and eventually throwing unused hops away.
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby mashy » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:13 pm

oooooooooooo didn't know that.

Thats quite timely I was looking at the fridge the other day thinking - what can I do with all those leftover hops ...........
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby Nashbrew » Thu Aug 30, 2018 9:52 am

Is there any difference to the weight you use between whole hops and pellets?
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby grooves » Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:24 pm

You can get 10-15% better utilisation from pellets - so you can use less for the same AA / bitterness as whole cones. I let BeerSmith work this out for me.
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby Cristian » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:26 am

Did you guys try the Cryo Hops? Looks like Malt Miller has these in the offer.
After reading the article below I am not convinced anymore.
http://brulosophy.com/2018/02/19/pellet-hops-vs-lupuln2-cryo-hops-exbeeriment-results/
Anyway its recommended to use as dry hop addition (probably because filtration in the BM is more difficult than with pallet hops)
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby mashy » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:11 am

grooves wrote:You can get 10-15% better utilisation from pellets - so you can use less for the same AA / bitterness as whole cones. I let BeerSmith work this out for me.


So are you saying, you have tried this? All hop additions are 10-15% less and the resulting beer was the same?
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Re: Hops. Whole or pellets?

Unread postby grooves » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:31 am

I doubt I'd taste the difference if I used 10% less whole hops.
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