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Brewing water testing

Unread postby Cristian » Wed May 09, 2018 1:42 pm

Hi guys,

Lately, I was digging in brewing water characteristics and I am curious to know exactly the level of minerals from my tap water. (and not to rely on public water reports as I have no clue how to read them)
I found many recommendations for this institute but as I am located in Europe, it's not that cheap to send a sample of water for analysis to the US.

https://www.wardlab.com/brewers-services.php

Did you research on this topic and can recommend a similar institute/lab in Europe?

:cheers:
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby Erick » Wed May 09, 2018 1:52 pm

Better learn how to read the local public water reports then as they change every 3 months (at least in the Netherlands).
Or are you planning to let them analyse it frequently?
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby Cristian » Wed May 09, 2018 2:03 pm

for sure not planning to test it frequently. I hope they don't change it so often in Vienna :) but I will need to investigate.
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby grooves » Wed May 09, 2018 2:24 pm

Here in the UK I can get my local water report annually from the supply company's website - this is good enough for me.

Uebrigens, kuck mal hier fuer Wien - https://www.wien.gv.at/wienwasser/quali ... ebnis.html

Otherwise you could try to find a European supplier for this http://www.lamotte-europe.com/products.php?id=16 / https://www.morebeer.com/products/lamot ... 18801.html and do it yourself more regularly
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby Cristian » Wed May 09, 2018 2:38 pm

grooves wrote:Here in the UK I can get my local water report annually from the supply company's website - this is good enough for me.

Uebrigens, kuck mal hier fuer Wien - https://www.wien.gv.at/wienwasser/quali ... ebnis.html

Otherwise you could try to find a European supplier for this http://www.lamotte-europe.com/products.php?id=16 / https://www.morebeer.com/products/lamot ... 18801.html and do it yourself more regularly


great! the kit sounds interesting. just need to better understand how it works. I will start investigating :)

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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby grooves » Wed May 09, 2018 3:08 pm

Forgot about this one: https://www.brewuk.co.uk/water-analysis.html

I think they use these guys http://laboratory.murphyandson.co.uk/our-products/water - I'm not sure they will deal with homebrewers directly, but it could be worth a try.
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby Cristian » Wed May 09, 2018 3:42 pm

grooves wrote:Forgot about this one: https://www.brewuk.co.uk/water-analysis.html

I think they use these guys http://laboratory.murphyandson.co.uk/our-products/water - I'm not sure they will deal with homebrewers directly, but it could be worth a try.


thank you very much! very helpful :cheers:
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby grooves » Thu May 10, 2018 7:15 am

Oh - and one more I read about in BYO magazine, if you have some spare €€€ and a smartphone

http://itseurope.co.uk/shop/smart-brew-standard-kit/

You can replace the reagents separately too
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby Cristian » Thu May 10, 2018 10:25 pm

grooves wrote:Oh - and one more I read about in BYO magazine, if you have some spare €€€ and a smartphone

http://itseurope.co.uk/shop/smart-brew-standard-kit/

You can replace the reagents separately too


wow, quite expensive. for this money you can find a connection to municipality water and bribe for a long time in exchange for the water report
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby mashy » Fri May 11, 2018 6:37 am

That does seem a very expensive kit just to look at your phone.

Buy the reagents and look at the glassware.
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby IPA » Fri May 11, 2018 7:17 am

There is a guy on JBK called wallybrew who has a company called Phoenix Analytical and he will analyse your water. When you have the result enter them in the Graham Wheeler water calculator on JBK and hey presto it will calculate the additions necessary for a range of beer types.
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby Mashman » Fri May 11, 2018 7:59 pm

+1 for wallybrew, excellent service and good value.
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby mashy » Sat May 12, 2018 5:14 am

IPA wrote:There is a guy on JBK called wallybrew who has a company called Phoenix Analytical and he will analyse your water. When you have the result enter them in the Graham Wheeler water calculator on JBK and hey presto it will calculate the additions necessary for a range of beer types.


Excellent. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby Cristian » Wed May 16, 2018 10:11 am

IPA wrote:There is a guy on JBK called wallybrew who has a company called Phoenix Analytical and he will analyse your water. When you have the result enter them in the Graham Wheeler water calculator on JBK and hey presto it will calculate the additions necessary for a range of beer types.



tks!
I sent a request via email but no reply yet. (enquiries@pheonix-analytical.co.uk)
do you know how much they charge?
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Re: Brewing water testing

Unread postby IPA » Thu May 17, 2018 6:33 am

Cristian wrote:
IPA wrote:There is a guy on JBK called wallybrew who has a company called Phoenix Analytical and he will analyse your water. When you have the result enter them in the Graham Wheeler water calculator on JBK and hey presto it will calculate the additions necessary for a range of beer types.



tks!
I sent a request via email but no reply yet. (enquiries@pheonix-analytical.co.uk)
do you know how much they charge?


£26 Send him a pm via JBK
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