10 liter or NOT?

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10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby ArticBrew » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:42 am

Hi guys, hope you all make great beer these days

Well, i live in the north of Norway, and the summer is short, i can aleays brew outside at this time of year, but then it gets limited.

I want to brew all year and the only place i can brew in my small house is the little kitchen. What i am afraid of if i go for a 20 or 50 liter, is all the steam when boiling!

Thats why i am thinking of the 10 liter, so i can brew under the kitchen vent...

I need input guys so i dont make the wrong buy, brewing more often as i am new and have never brewed is just fine i guess.

Here is my toughts...10 liter for winter brewing at the kitchen for my self.
50 or 20 liter outside brewing from spring to autum with a friend or to, split the cost between to or three brewers.

Hope you guys read this and give me some advice...
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby niels » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:32 pm

Hi ArticBrew,

I have a BM50 and I always brew outdoors as I don't have a dedicated brew space indoors and the BM50 is just way too big to deal with in our kitchen.

I just finished a brew session with a BM10 and it's just perfect to use in a kitchen.

However... I only once brewed with a BM20 and it was in a garage. But there are members on the forum who use it in a kitchen. But if it works will depend on the height of your kitchen vent.

Maybe a BM20 user can elaborate a bit more?

:cheers:
- Niels

PS: Just know that the BM10 will not be available in the coming weeks. Speidel is pumping out BM20 en BM50 units, but as far as I understand the BM10 production hasn't started yet.
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby ArticBrew » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:54 pm

Thx niels...

So if i understan you right, a kitchen vent will manage to get rid of all the steam from a 10 liter BM? No drops coming back into the beer?

As we boil for 90 min, i am afraid steam would come down from the vent after awhile, am i wrong?

10 liters BM for brewing more often may work for me?

niels...how do you brew outside in the winter?
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby Lindh » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:28 pm

With the hood and some regular ventilation pipes you can brew anywhere you want even in the swedish winter, I brew with the BM50 and have zero condensation. I used to have a lot brewing with regular 50l pit but the hood works excellent even without any fan installed.

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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby ArticBrew » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:38 pm

Seems like a good solution when you have a window so near, my window is 5 meters from the kitchen...
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby SteveOR » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:08 am

I brew with a 20L inside all year long..

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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby Lindh » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:12 am

ArticBrew wrote:Seems like a good solution when you have a window so near, my window is 5 meters from the kitchen...


Then place the Braumeister on a flat surface nearer the window? Or in a smaller room that you can close the door to so it don't get frosty in the rest of the house =)
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby kahobro » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:25 am

ArticBrew wrote:Hi guys, hope you all make great beer these days
Thats why i am thinking of the 10 liter, so i can brew under the kitchen vent...

Did you check if you have enough room under the kitchen vent to pull out the malt pipe?

Including some room to work and not only if it will fit? Remember you will have to lift straight up and your arms and maybe shoulders also have to fit under the vent.

If there is only little manouver space I wouldn't like to do with hot, sticky wort.

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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby ArticBrew » Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:42 pm

Didnt think of that, its 47 cm from the stove to the kitchen vent, i dobt even the 10 liter fits?
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby kahobro » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:10 pm

ArticBrew wrote:Didnt think of that, its 47 cm from the stove to the kitchen vent, i dobt even the 10 liter fits?

See this post:
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The height of the 10 l braumeister is 48 cm.
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby ArticBrew » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:13 pm

Ok thx, next question, will the boiling from a 10 liter BM, be a problem in my small kitchen? I am thinking about all the steam i get from the 90 min boiling on the kitchetable since it doesn't fit under the vent.
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby kahobro » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:27 pm

Why don't you try it?
The BM20 boils off about 2.5 l/hr, the power of the BM10 is so I would guess the BM10 boils of 1.3 l/hr.

Use a water cooker or an electric stove and evaporate 1.5 l in hour and see if the kitchen ventilation is enough to prevent water dripping from the walls. If that works you have to be aware that wort smells more than water.

I wouldn't want to use my BM20 indoors because I fear the amount of moisture would get everything wet. The odors are another thing to take into account.

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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby SteveOR » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:55 pm

The odors ... I find the smells from mashing , boiling, hops all very pleasant. :drink:
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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby kahobro » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:11 am

SteveOR wrote:The odors ... I find the smells from mashing , boiling, hops all very pleasant. :drink:

Yes, but how does your wife feel about it if those smells are still there the next day?
:twisted: :shock:

I like the smells from the hops but only as long as I'm brewing ...

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Re: 10 liter or NOT?

Unread postby niels » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:22 pm

I always smell like a walking wort monster after a brew day. When brewing with the BM10 I didn't notice the same smell. The kitchen door was open all the time and the hood wasn't running when mashing. During the boil I put the hood on maximum (it's a 30 year old hood).

No noticeable smell in the house.

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